Are these photographers CHEATING?

It's all setting and managing expectations. Fiction can be more true than reality when it details appropriate abstractions of reality. It isn't really a matter of whether or not the images are manipulated but rather why they are. The added airplane feels like weak photography because the main desirable element of the image is something like "wow, what are the chances of getting that shot". Without the plane the image is not very notable and without the feeling of chance invoked the final composition isn't very desirable even though it is visually more complete.

With Fargo, the movie makes you want to feel a certain way believing the events to be literally historically true, and maybe when you learn that they honestly weren't you feel a sense of shame for being gullible, or anger for being lied to. Maybe you reject the lie and discredit the work, or maybe you appreciate the lesson on the capacity of media to make you believe a lie, or maybe you watched and enjoyed the movie not even realizing it was supposed to be a true story.

When the core intent is deception, you'll be hard pressed to find anyone to honor the work. But there are levels of deception that are tolerable when the core intent is the expression of something greater.

Best video of ur channel ..

if photo shot been setup should be stated.

4:08 and honestly one of his most boring, not so great photos. Ansel has many, many more photos that are outstanding. This one, not so great…interesting and a descent image (the scene and how he processed it, but his Sierra images are far, far better. 5:19 If you're supposed to be shooting journalism and having it printed in a newspaper, NatGeo, etc…then yes. The whole point is to see the scene as it is, real life. Why would anyone (a photojournalist) feel like they need to change the real scene? Their job is to capture real life. Fine art photography…ok, edit all you want because it's art.

6:20 Pancake eater….LOL

When does a photo become a lie?
Just go on tinder or any dating app. All photos there are a big lie lol

Forensic or photojournalistic work should not be manipulated beyond exposure, density and color correction. Anyhing else is either art or editorial and open to all forms of manipulation serving the creators needs.

If a photograph is presented as art, image manipulation is part of the medium.

If a photograph is presented as journalism, then image manipulation is manipulation of truth.

That’s why we make distinctions between photographer and photojournalist.

Something to think about. Great conversation piece.

This is a simple answer, when photographers use significant digital manipulation of the image, the image becomes digital art, not photography. Adjusting exposure, color and cropping have all been a part of photography from its inception. Personally I spent many hours in the dark room, adjusting exposure, dodging dark faces and cropping the photos I was printing back in the 1970's. I do basically the same thing when I adjust these same elements of the photo in light room. But as soon as you begin to remove or add other images to a photo, you are then creating something that did not exist, thus you are creating Digital art. As long as digital art is not promoted as reality, there should be no issue. Of course when you put an image of a Great White Shark, swimming through the flooded streets of (pick any hurricane flooded city in recent years) and claim on Facebook that Sharks were swimming the streets of Miami, you are creating a hoax. Not cool in any way.

Hi Jamie, As you said, it is the choice of the photographer to choose what he (she) wants you to see. A picture is a representation, a still moment of a story, a perspective from a point of view. Everything is different from a other angle. The story and feeling has a different meaning then.
Photography is an art. Art is cheating … for pleasing purpose.
I personally try to differentiate journalism and photography. When the photograph reporter "arrange" his composition (as we see 90% of the times), it is not news anymore.
When I watch a movie is for my entertainment and expect the picture to be manipulated. If I watch the news I expect them to be accurate and the pictures not being manipulated.
Photography and journalism are two different things and should not be confused.
So are most of the photographers cheating? Yes they are and they do it well. They're professionals and the results are good. Photographers are not the problem but the way the pictures are used or interpreted.

It becomes a rule to lie when there are no rules, as the truth rules all lies or they would not be.

Besides,….I do what I want.

It helps to minimize any expectations which is easy to achieve this way,

….and even easier still when my eye is the beholder alone.

Is it art? Is it a story? Is it creative? Is it more than one moment? A picture can be all those things and more.

Consider the possibility, has it or will it be seen by another when taking it?, as the action of taking pictures affects people in many different ways, many times based on their assumptions or preconceived expectations, which is the first response or reaction some pictures elicit even before being seen.

Sometimes people THINK they are in it when they arent, and I dont want them to be….usually ever.

Sometimes people wander into a picture, and once they realize it, will not leave.

Some people will see you looking at a subject and dart over by it, usually something uninteresting to most, but when you look at it, the second you look at it, they will go over there.

Two things I do, because the phenomenon is real,…I never look directly at what it is until Im ready, then I whirl around and click the picture. When they decide to dart over at that point, I will briskly walk away, seemingly uninterested, and the person or persons will leave relatively quickly, then I will double back and finish up. It works EVERY time.

It is the peripheral phenomenon of photography related human behavior that I consider part of making and taking pictures, that is the hardest part given the most effort,…and although true, it is a lie you will never see, because not ONE of those moth@rf*ckers is in any of my pictures.

So, it is what ISNT in a picture that cannot be seen as it was more or less edited with nothing but time and more nothing, which is the truest lie of all,…while that is both art, and the truest truth there is.