Photography ISN'T Art?! (Picture This Podcast)
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A initially learned photography as a kid shooting black & white then developing the photos in a dark room, that was a magical time and sparked my interest in photography. As I got older I dabbled in digital photography but wasn't until my kids were born that i really started to get an active interest back in it all.
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what is the name of the artist that use google map images to create those shots? please help me find it !!
Even paint and paint brushes were a technology at some time in the past. These things didn't spring forth from the ground and into the artists hands. I think this debate will rage on forever, just like the debate of 'are videos games art'.
I think its what you choose to photograph and the way in which that shot is composed that makes it artistic. If a greenhouse frame on four jacks is art then a well composed photographic image must qualify.
Looooved the warped self-esteem part, I'm so on the low side it even annoys me XD
Ya'lls are some of the few people I can watch the entire video and not stop 30 seconds in
For those of you interested in the history of photography, there is a fascinating chapter titled "State of the Art" in the photography book Victorian Giants. The chapter goes into the history of the question "is photography art" which began shortly after photography was invented. The book is also a great look at the work of the Victorian Giants of photography – Cameron, Rejlander, Carroll and Hawarden.
Did Steiglitz have the first gallery showing of photography? Possibly. However there were many photography shows including one at the Kensington Museum in 1858. On 12 February 1858, Henry Cole, the founding director of the South Kensington Museum, recorded in his diary:
'Museum: Queen &c came to private view of the Photographic Socy, being the first exhibition in the Refreshment upper room'.
The exhibition was not only the first to take place in that part of the museum. It was in fact the first exhibition of photographs to be held in any museum. Consisting of 1009 photographs, it was organized by the Photographic Society of London and included approximately 250 contributions from its French counterpart, the Société française de photographie.
it is clearly both – they are different aspects of the same thing
I think a better comparison would be between a musician's instruments and a photographer and their camera?
Ah, the endless and tireless beast of categorization. There is some primal instinct inside us all that came from the time we realized we 'belonged' to a family unit, tribe, town, religion, that required us to begin the journey of catagorizing and prioritizing anything and everything that comes into our path. Is any endeavor art or not? One could call the instinct to sort and label, an auto-curation of life experiences. What we need to be mindful of is not just the categorization and the accuracy of it, but also the inevitable comparison. Maybe Yoda can help. "Categorization leads to comparison, comparison leads to judgement, judgement leads to… winning/losing? Rejection/acceptance? By whose standards? And you're correct – the debate goes on. 😉 Thanks for a great prod to think deeper on this!
Photographers * Need * to title photography as Art, to justify their existence.
Photography is Art and Art is photography (the artist must claim his work with a signature).
The debate normally goes around on one skill (the human touch, the human aspect of what is created with the physical hands). There is where we have painting, sculpture, metal forging etc. But look at this concept: All of does skills have advanced technologically..we have tons of painting collage that before were only 8 or 10 known colors/ we have Dremels that never existed for the sculpture/ and better metals created technologically for the metal forging. Yet their work is still considered "Art" cus their results are made with the hands. Guess what, so is photography. There is a unique moment, that is capture with the human eye/ At a moment that passes in a split of a second, and is captured by the physical hand of that know / or unknown artist. Hope is not too deep…but there you have it.
This reminds me of the film thst was made using only surveillance camera footage.
Painting is not always art, either. The medium, in and of itself, does not make something art.
If an artist has the ambition to express something I guess it's art. But if someone makes a perfect replica, does that make it art as well? To different intentions but the same result. The replica would be called a forgery but looks exactly the same as the original. Then it's the idea that is the art and the original is sort of like the ownership of that idea.
You two are brilliant when it comes to photography (and running a YouTube channel), but not so much art theory. I love most of your videos, but this one is a miss.
Here's my million dollar idea for you crazy kids: "Comedians Taking Pictures With Chelsea" in which you guys go out shooting with funny people. Start with Lahna Turner. (Sorry about the name, but it's the only one I could think of that had some pizzaz).
A painter uses a paintbrush we use a camera. Art is the concept of creation. Even making music is considered art.
photography an art? pfffft. Generally its care of Adobe which can turn a turd into something that can look half decent!
art is interptred by each individual, Like the old saying Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Painting is art, but some artists are better than others. Same for photography.
Of course most anything could be considered art but it's not all good.
Jared Polin said in one video that there is a difference between a photograph and a snapshot. A photograph being set and composed, planned and care taken. A snapshot being a captured moment, a frozen memory. Paraphrasing, of course. Photography includes both, but in a photograph, you create, in a snapshot, you catch.
I stopped the video just past half way through to type, GOOd STUFF T&C!
PS – Bring the Moose back! He was great!
click Like… Chelsea is gorgeous as always…
EVERYTHING IN LIFE IS BIAS. Photography is not an art, according to who? The definition of art sometime change depend when you live in when you ask that question. I believe photography is an art. The painter use the brush and paint and we the photographer use the camera and the film. Ansel adams used a photoshop in an old school way, dark room. We use a photoshop software. Thanks for sharing.
Yes, photography can be art. One of my brothers is an artist (M.a [distinction]) and he has used photography in his body of work, as well as painting, sculpting, music, and installations. But not all photography is art.
P.S. Love you guys, come to London. I'll give you a tour, and maybe even buy you a cuppa.
Intention is the key. I usually start with a question, a thought, an idea….then go from there. Without this approach, I would consider myself a strict documentarian. IMHO
It's only art if they can agree!
It's only art if it passes the sniff test!
It's only art if Ken Rockwell says it's so!
It's only art if the gear is out!
Art is a conspiracy!
It's only art if it's of sunny Florida!
It's only art if it's reviewed as such!
It's only art if the pixels are really deep!
It's only art if it's in focus!