With the news that Photography School I went to will no longer be taking new students, I decided to proclaim Photography Colleges OFFICIALLY DEAD!! Of course this means traditional photography schools not four year schools.
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Very interesting. I have been debating on going to school for photography. I feel like it’s better to improve my skill, and just work hard. However I worry some business, and people will want to see a degree or certificate.
When I went to collage for black and white photography our teacher would tells use not to waste our money to go photography school because because he had students that would tell him that they learned more from him them more then what the did in Brooks. Also you would still start at the bottom of the photography career.
Anyone noticed there have never been any photographers past or present who are millionaires?
JP – I went to RIT, for photography, back in the late 80's. While a great "photo" education, they didn't teach us about the "business" of photography. I would have been better suited sticking with my mentor who was a Master in Photography that taught at Antonelli.
The importance of a school is that it holds a fixed environment, and the stream of information is coming from a fixed direction. There's no guarantees in life, so there's no guarantee every school is great. However, I'd rather fail quick and hard to find out that this wasn't actually what I was looking for, than spending years on end pondering around internet and still walk around in doubt.
All I'd say is ask yourself how you personally function at your best for learning and opening up to valuable information.
Couldn't agree more. Ive been telling photography students for years to skip the photo degree and focus on another major. All you need to learn in photography is out there for free (interning, shadowing, assisting). When I went to school, the focus was artistic expression and technical stuff I've never needed. Never was I taught the business, marketing and financial aspects of running a business; all were learned through trial and error. Good post Jared!
Youtube is the great master. Thanks to youtube you can learn from photography to mandarin chinese.
I went to a community college to learn Photography my classes included art and digital processing classes. I also took business, sociology and journalism -newspaper classes. the business classes help a lot and the journalism classes got me a few gigs.
A lot of the "Schools" that "teach" technology and office skills in my area suddenly closed down when their accreditation was questioned. One school a few blocks from me closed over the weekend and left students hanging, they paid and get nothing a few were a few days from graduating.
Could I have learned from Youtube, books and internet, of course but I have no regrets going to a community college the pluses as I see them, no students loans, I learned from teachers who work or worked in the field of photography,Art and Business.
I do recommend if you want to get into Photography as a business do read a few books on business principles and procedures. and study some art courses, it helps with the creative process. To get my degree Art Classes were required anyway.
I have a friend who told me his take on those schools he calls them diploma mills, I'm not as critical when I got out of the military I went to a business college the knowledge and experience I got from it helps me to day especially knowing how to use computers and related technology. (I went there to learn how to be a secretary LOL)
It's a very competitive market for photographers.
Really one should get degree's in graphic design, and in business.
Very Interesting…………………………….
Jared, I agree with your analysis of the need for photography/art school training. However, you made a mistake in your commentary. You inadvertently made it seem like RIT (Rochester Institute of Technology) is a photography school and that "RIT" is closing. This is not the case.
Why need to go to college and learn photography when we have channel like this! (And many others)! Learned most of my stuffs from your channel and many others!👍👍
I start my photography degree at Gwinnett Tech this fall…we'll see how it goes!
Don't forget bad film schools. You have to think of why these "schools" are closing. In the simplest terms, they don't serve anyone any worth in the face of better options available.
I don't agree with going to a biggest school possible if you're going to a 4 year school. I went to a small school where the classes are small enough that professors can have more focus on your work. Professors are more open to discussion outside of class and because of the small size it gives you a bigger chance of landing opportunities outside the classroom.
photography is a very saturated market. everybody has a camera even people with smart phones that we carry with us.
Here in Holland are the photography school, populair. Not only for business and pro's, all so for amateur like me.
How ever, for the students, is it difficult, to get a decent job. The market is getting full……..
you have to understand whats going on,…..
That's what happened to me with Brooks Institute of photography. Now I can't even have my credentials checked.
I don't regret going to school for photography but we didn't learn about marketing or anything.. which totally sucks. UNF in case anyone was wondering
I graduated with a BFA in Motion Picture and took four classes with basic photography learning things I knew since 7 or 8 years old. Then I started taking light room and photoshop classes and they were insane. Some things I could not even find on YouTube. Now I have a few friends that are photographers but they do nothing like people on YouTube. They do insane shoots like visual designs of some juxtaposition shots. It is amazing but they learned this all from professionals. And art school is mainly for people who want to go beyond YouTube education. At least we are doing big work at age 22 and 23. My background helps marketing a lot for branding in office and also visual designing but my degree is labeled otherwise. I learned so much of culture and history of art in many form factors. So I would say that education over those workshops are better. You get more than what you say.
History of advertising- nice 👍🏾
So, Jared, when will My Gear Vault be available for Android? I keep waiting but it still shows as Early Access only and its not available. Thanks!
good vid and good point, learn from someone who's doing
The best photography education is your Rapid Fire Critiques!
No, you don't want to say it is what it is, but yes, it is. It's just like film when digital first came out. You felt bad for Kodak and these huge companies that had existed for a hundred years and been foundational in the art and business, but in the end, technology changes things, and if you can't adapt or you can't even adapt fast enough, then you don't make it.
Fuck school and huge debts you can learn everything you need to know online master your craft master your art do it good like grouthead on YouTube does
Pls make Podcast available in Asia as well
How about tafe school
What camera are you using on this video and lens? Looks awesome! And thanks for this video. It's something i've been debating whether or not to do. I've learned plenty through youtube and books. Thanks again!
YouTube killed photography schools.
When will MGV be available for Android??????????????????? Early access means nothing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In my opinion …any school is the biggest fucking scam ever!!! Especially college!!! Do you go for years for what???